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==What is a Record Label?==
==What is a Record Label?==


<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">-- ''(derived from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_label Wikipedia])''
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">-- ''(derived from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_label Wikipedia's article])''
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* Record companies:
* Record companies:
** A record company manages imprints, and coordinates the production / manufacturing / promotion / enforcement of copyright protection / relations with artist / PR / distribution of sound recordings. Record labels may directly handle one or more of these aspects, or may sign contractual agreements with other companies to do the job.
** A record company manages imprints, and coordinates the production / manufacturing / promotion / relations with artist / PR / distribution of sound recordings. Record labels may directly handle one or more of these aspects, or may sign contractual agreements with other companies to do the job.


* Imprints:
* Imprints:
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[[MusicBrainz]] should keep track of imprints, companies involved into either production or distribution, and to some extent music groups. Typically, all these informations are available on the media sleeves.
[[MusicBrainz]] should keep track of imprints, companies involved into either production or distribution, and to some extent music groups. Typically, all these informations are available on the media sleeves.


At that time, we don't think we should keep track of companies involved in the other aspects of the music industry (PR...), or get into too much financial details. There are two reasons for that:
At that time, we don't think we should keep track of companies involved in the other aspects of the music industry (PR...), get into too much financial details, or try to represent exactly the socio-economic organization of labels. There are two reasons for that:
* such informations are usually not available from sleeves
* such informations are usually not available from sleeves
* they are probably irrelevant to [[MusicBrainz]] goal (being a '''music''' database)
* they are probably irrelevant to [[MusicBrainz]] goal (being a '''music''' database)


==Record Labels in MusicBrainz==
==Informations about labels stored in the database==


These fields are stored directly in each label's record:
These fields are stored directly in each label's record:
* [[Label ID|LabelID]]: the UUID of the label (not editable)
* [[Label ID|LabelID]]: the [[MusicBrainz]]' UUID of the label (not editable)
* [[Label Name|LabelName]]: the name of the label
* [[Label Name|LabelName]]: the name of the label
* [[Label Sort Name|LabelSortName]]: the sortname of the label
* [[Label Sort Name|LabelSortName]]: the sortname of the label
* [[Label Alias|LabelAlias]]: aliases
* [[Label Alias|LabelAlias]]: aliases
* [[Label Code|LabelCode]]: the unique code of the label
* [[Label Code|LabelCode]]: the unique code of the label (a.k.a. "LC")
* [[Label Begin Date|LabelBeginDate]]: this is the creation date (or "first used name" date) of the label entity
* [[Label Begin Date|LabelBeginDate]]: this is the creation date of the label entity (or the date at which the imprint name was first used)
* [[Label End Date|LabelEndDate]]: this is the date at which the company went bankrupt, was dismantled, or the name was used for the last time
* [[Label End Date|LabelEndDate]]: this is the date at which the company went bankrupt, was dismantled, or the name was used for the last time
* [[Label Comment|LabelComment]]: field to distinguish between identically named labels
* [[Label Comment|LabelComment]]: field to distinguish between identically named labels
* [[Label Annotation|LabelAnnotation]]: general information about the label that may be of interest to other users
* [[Label Annotation|LabelAnnotation]]: general information about the label that may be of interest and doesn't fit in any other fields
* [[Label Country|LabelCountry]]: the country in which the company was founded
* [[Label Country|LabelCountry]]: the country in which the company was founded
* [[Label Type|LabelType]]: the "type" of the label
* [[Label Type|LabelType]]: the "type" of the label, describing its production


Many other kinds of information can be represented using [[Advanced Relationships|AdvancedRelationships]]. You can read [[Advanced Relationship Type|AdvancedRelationshipType]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s for informations on all kind of relationships, or more specifically check [[Label Relationship Class|LabelRelationshipClass]] for label centric informations.
Many other kinds of information can be represented using [[Advanced Relationships|AdvancedRelationships]]. You can read [[Advanced Relationship Type|AdvancedRelationshipType]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s for informations on all kind of relationships, or more specifically check [[Label Relationship Class|LabelRelationshipClass]] for label centric informations.

Just like with artists, you can subscribe to a label. See [[Label Subscription|LabelSubscription]] for more information.


==Editing labels==
==Editing labels==
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Any [[MusicBrainz]] user can edit labels in several ways:
Any [[MusicBrainz]] user can edit labels in several ways:
* The system provides the following [[Edit Type|EditType]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s:
* The system provides the following [[Edit Type|EditType]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s:
** [[Add Labels Edit|AddLabelsEdit]] (autoedit)
** [[Add Label Edit|AddLabelEdit]] (autoedit)
** [[Remove Label Edit|RemoveLabelEdit]]
** [[Edit Label Name Edit|EditLabelNameEdit]]
** [[Edit Label Edit|EditLabelEdit]]
** [[Edit Label Sortname Edit|EditLabelSortnameEdit]]
** [[Add Label Annotation Edit|AddLabelAnnotationEdit]]
** [[Add Label Alias Edit|AddLabelAliasEdit]]
** [[Edit Label Alias Edit|EditLabelAliasEdit]]
** [[Remove Label Alias Edit|RemoveLabelAliasEdit]]
** [[Merge Labels Edit|MergeLabelsEdit]]
** [[Merge Labels Edit|MergeLabelsEdit]]


For general informations about these edits (and other types of edit), see [[Edit Type|EditType]].
==Informative external resources about labels==


==More about labels==
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The design of the label system has been made bearing in mind one main requirement: having a release sleeve as only information source must be enough to perform all basic editing.
The following sites are useful to find labels homepages:
* [http://www.rlabels.com/ http://www.rlabels.com/]
* [http://www.allrecordlabels.com/ http://www.allrecordlabels.com/]


That being said, the label macrocosm is a very rich and complex world. Editors who want to go beyond basic editing and want to learn/document more can take a look at the [[Label Resource|LabelResource]] page.
Wikipedia has an extensive labels list, and a lot of articles:
* [[WikiPedia:List_of_record_labels|Wikipedia labels list page]]


==F.A.Q.==
Genre oriented resources:
* Jazz:
** [http://www.trombone-usa.com/jazz-labels.htm Scott Yanow label page]: usefull for a quick heads-up about some labels
** [http://www.jazzdiscography.com/Labels Michael Fitzgerald label page]: has a *lot* of catalogs (although not really detailed)
** [http://www.jazzdisco.org/ The jazz discography project] has not a lot of labels catalogs, but when they have one, it's good!


===How to handle autoreleases?===
[[MusicBrainz]] resources:
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">There have been preliminary attempts at consolidating data about labels prior to the introduction of labels into the database. They are to be found here:
* [[Catalog Codes|CatalogCodes]] providing some catalog schemes
* [[Jazz/Labels]] providing informations/links/catalogs for a number of jazz oriented labels


In some cases, artists "autoproduce" and "autorelease" their own records. As long as an imprint is possible to positively identify, it should be used as a label entry. If there's no such thing, or if the creation of such a label entry is disputable, we may want to use [[Special Purpose Label|SpecialPurposeLabel]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s (possibly [autorelease]). This need to be discussed further, and such an addition should be made after a proper RFC/RFV process.
</ul>


===Can an imprint and the company that controls it have the same name?===
Global market share overview:
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">There are mainly "4 big ones": Universal Music Group, EMI Group, Warner Music Group, and Sony BMG who own a vast majority of all other labels.
</ul>


Yes, definitely. Actually, a company "A" may sell its own imprint "A" to another company "B" and continue to exist as company "A", while the imprint is being operated by company "B"... This can result in really confusing situations... Usually though, editors in [[MusicBrainz]] will deal with imprints exclusively (which *is* the information available on sleeves).
==F.A.Q./Miscellaneous==


In the old days, there was actually no clear distinction between an imprint and the company that controlled it. Nowadays though, things got much more complex. Whether or not something requires two distinct entries in the database is up to the editor, and should be decided on a case by case basis (though we think that in most cases, just one entry is enough).
===How to handle autoreleases?===


===Where to discuss problems and enhancements suggestions?===
In some cases, artists "autoproduce" and "autorelease" their own records. As long as an imprint is possible to positively identify, it should be used as a label entry. If there's no such thing, or if the creation of such a label entry is discutable, we may want to use [[Special Purpose Label|SpecialPurposeLabel]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s (possibly [autorelease]).


Both discussions about future enhancements and current limitations and bugs should be done on the [[Label Future|LabelFuture]] page.
===Can an imprint and the company that controls it have the same name?===


===Are "collections" valid imprints?===
Yes, definitely. Actually, a company "A" may sell its own imprint "A" to another company "B" and continue to exist as company "A", while the imprint is being operated by company "B"... This can result in really confusing situations... Usually though, editors in [[MusicBrainz]] will deal with imprints exclusively (which *is* the information available on sleeves).


This is a difficult question that can't be solved generally, but only on a case by case basis. Hence, the use of a label entry for collections names must be made with extra-care. Definitely, one must not use collection names printed on the front cover as a label name, but only if the collection name is used in place of the label name (usually on the back cover, next to a catalog number), and is really used by the producing label as is. For example, the "Verve Jazz Masters" releases are from label "Verve", dot, and "Jazz Masters" should be part of the release name. On the other hand, "Original Jazz Classics" is an imprint, owned by label "Fantasy".
===Known problems and limitations===


===How do you "relate" a label and a release?===
The system currently has known limitations, that may be solved later:

* Ideally, we could be able to attach multiple release events (release date and country) to a unique catalog number / EAN. -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 21:22, 03 November 2006 (UTC)
When adding a [[Release Event|ReleaseEvent]], you can additionally specify a [[Label Name|LabelName]], [[Catalog Number|CatalogNumber]], and an EAN. This is a core relation between labels and releases (not to be confused with [[Advanced Relationships|AdvancedRelationships]]). At that time, there are no [[Advanced Relationships|AdvancedRelationships]] between labels and releases.
* Also one release event could use multiple labels. For example Inside Out Music records are always distributed by SPV and they have an SPV catalogue number as well as an IO catalogue number. Therefore I think one "release set" should contain: several <release date, release region> pairs, several <label, catalogue number> pairs and single fields such as the [[EAN]] (of which the barcode is just the representation, but could leave the name like that as it's easier to identify for users which don't know that). -- [[User:Shepard|Shepard]] 13:37, 07 January 2007 (UTC)
* ARs such as the [[Discogs Relationship Type|DiscogsRelationshipType]] and the [[Amazon Relationship Type|AmazonRelationshipType]] would ideally be attached to a release set - but I guess that has to wait until we can separate between releases and albums. :) -- [[User:Shepard|Shepard]] 13:37, 07 January 2007 (UTC)
** I'm not sure I understand correctly these last points. How would we allow: on one hand, a single release event (country, date) to be linked to several different label/cat/bar (as in your example), and to single AMZ/Discogs links, and on the other hand, a single release set (single label/cat/bar) to be linked to several different release events and several different AMZ/Discogs links? Though this question is theoretical ;) - Also do you imply that Discogs/AMZ links should be unique to a release set? -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 16:15, 07 January 2007 (UTC)
*** Well, one release date could refer to several label releases (ie, different pages on amazon and discogs), and indeed, different release dates could refer to different label releases. Finally, one label release (ie, page on amazon and discogs) could be a release on 2 or more labels (eg [http://www.discogs.com/release/374880 http://www.discogs.com/release/374880]). I think the best way to to this would be to allow for ARs (specially discogs and amazon ones, perhaps others) specific to release events, but this is probably difficult/impossible. Ultimately I think this will all be easier to deal with when NGS gets here. -- [[User:Gecks|Gecks]]
*** My initial idea in [[Release Data Set|ReleaseDataSet]] was to have one set for each unique release (identified by the EAN for example, although sometimes not even they identify a unique release). In this set you would then have a list of <release date, release country> pairs - still for this unique release, because different countries have different days in the week when music is mostly released, so the item with the EAN 1234567890123 could be released on Monday in .de and on Wednesday in the UK for example. Then you would also store a list of <label, cat> pairs, because different labels work on one unique release - as I described in my example above, InsideOut releases are always distributed by SPV and both have their own catalogue system. And then you store other identifiers in this set, like the EAN, Discogs/ASIN stuff (yes, unique to a release set).<br/> Note though that this page here is about a first step into the right direction. The ideas in [[Release Data Set|ReleaseDataSet]] are relativised by NGS where the whole tracklisting with titles, tracktimes, [[Disc ID|DiscID]]s and so on would be included in a "release set". So, not everything needs to be coded yet, limitations are implied. One label per release date is a good start. If this was to be extended before labels go live, I would prefer multiple labels per date over multiple dates per label, but that's just a personal preference. -- [[User:Shepard|Shepard]] 15:22, 09 January 2007 (UTC)


==Discussion==
==Discussion==


Open questions and miscellaneous discussions that don't yet have a place in the F.A.Q. and doesn't belong to [[Label Future|LabelFuture]] should go to the [[Talk:Label|LabelDiscussion]] page. Alternatively, you can post your question to either the [[Users Mailing List|UsersMailingList]] or [[Style Mailing List|StyleMailingList]], and possibly edit one of these pages afterward with the result if you think it's of general interest.
* The use of a label entity for collections names must be made with extra-care. Definitely, one must not use collection names printed on the front cover as a label name, but only if the collection name is printed in place of the label name, and is really used by the producing label as is. For example, any of the "Verve Jazz Masters" releases are from label Verve, dot, and "Jazz Masters" should be part of the release name. Compare this with the Original Jazz Classics releases, by label Fantasy. -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 21:22, 03 November 2006 (UTC)
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">Although... it's somewhat an interesting side-effect to be able to use phony labels as collection names...
</ul>
* How should artists that release their own stuff be handled? Create a label page for the artist? (I know of several autoreleasers within the Danish folk music milieu alone.) --[[User:FrederikSOlesen|FrederikSOlesen]] {{DateTime}}
** I guess it boils down to: does a legal entity (association, company, whatever) exists, and does the media bears a barcode? If so, then *this* (whatever *this* is) is the "label" (even if owned by the artist, even if nothing more than a trademark name to which the barcode has been attributed. If not, then I guess we are dealing with people distributing CDr around, out of any kind of structure (be it commercial or legal), right? In this case, IMO there is no label at all (and possibly no release event either). Probably the same goes for "internet" releases out of any "official" structures. Wether we want a "phony" label (or more than one?) to distinguish between such "autorelease" and "no-info-yet-release" is an open question. -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 08:47, 07 November 2006 (UTC)

* It would be useful to have an 'add label' link on the page generated when you 'use this release in a relationship' -- [[User:Gecks|Gecks]]
** uh, i was kinda confused :) i thought labels > release relationships were done through AR, but it's actually a link to a release event. Just thought I'd put this down for the record as I guess some others might make the same mistake? Not sure how to stop that happening, though... -- [[User:Gecks|Gecks]]

* I would like to subscribe to Labels, simular as for artists. -- [[User:Schika|Schika]]
** If I recall well that conversation on the mailing-list (check the link at the top of the page), I think luks said it was planned -- [[User:dmppanda|dmppanda]] 16:15, 07 January 2007 (UTC)


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What is a Record Label?

Record labels may refer to:

  • Music groups:
    • A music group is a financial holding, whose purpose is solely to control and manage other companies directly involved in the production of sound recordings
  • Record companies:
    • A record company manages imprints, and coordinates the production / manufacturing / promotion / relations with artist / PR / distribution of sound recordings. Record labels may directly handle one or more of these aspects, or may sign contractual agreements with other companies to do the job.
  • Imprints:
    • An imprint is (strictly, and nothing more than) a brand (and trademark) associated with the marketing of sound recordings (an imprint is not a company). An imprint may be marketed as a project, unit or division of the company that manages it.

MusicBrainz should keep track of imprints, companies involved into either production or distribution, and to some extent music groups. Typically, all these informations are available on the media sleeves.

At that time, we don't think we should keep track of companies involved in the other aspects of the music industry (PR...), get into too much financial details, or try to represent exactly the socio-economic organization of labels. There are two reasons for that:

  • such informations are usually not available from sleeves
  • they are probably irrelevant to MusicBrainz goal (being a music database)

Record Labels in MusicBrainz

These fields are stored directly in each label's record:

  • LabelID: the MusicBrainz' UUID of the label (not editable)
  • LabelName: the name of the label
  • LabelSortName: the sortname of the label
  • LabelAlias: aliases
  • LabelCode: the unique code of the label (a.k.a. "LC")
  • LabelBeginDate: this is the creation date of the label entity (or the date at which the imprint name was first used)
  • LabelEndDate: this is the date at which the company went bankrupt, was dismantled, or the name was used for the last time
  • LabelComment: field to distinguish between identically named labels
  • LabelAnnotation: general information about the label that may be of interest and doesn't fit in any other fields
  • LabelCountry: the country in which the company was founded
  • LabelType: the "type" of the label, describing its production

Many other kinds of information can be represented using AdvancedRelationships. You can read AdvancedRelationshipTypes for informations on all kind of relationships, or more specifically check LabelRelationshipClass for label centric informations.

Just like with artists, you can subscribe to a label. See LabelSubscription for more information.

Editing labels

Any MusicBrainz user can edit labels in several ways:

For general informations about these edits (and other types of edit), see EditType.

More about labels

The design of the label system has been made bearing in mind one main requirement: having a release sleeve as only information source must be enough to perform all basic editing.

That being said, the label macrocosm is a very rich and complex world. Editors who want to go beyond basic editing and want to learn/document more can take a look at the LabelResource page.

F.A.Q.

How to handle autoreleases?

In some cases, artists "autoproduce" and "autorelease" their own records. As long as an imprint is possible to positively identify, it should be used as a label entry. If there's no such thing, or if the creation of such a label entry is disputable, we may want to use SpecialPurposeLabels (possibly [autorelease]). This need to be discussed further, and such an addition should be made after a proper RFC/RFV process.

Can an imprint and the company that controls it have the same name?

Yes, definitely. Actually, a company "A" may sell its own imprint "A" to another company "B" and continue to exist as company "A", while the imprint is being operated by company "B"... This can result in really confusing situations... Usually though, editors in MusicBrainz will deal with imprints exclusively (which *is* the information available on sleeves).

In the old days, there was actually no clear distinction between an imprint and the company that controlled it. Nowadays though, things got much more complex. Whether or not something requires two distinct entries in the database is up to the editor, and should be decided on a case by case basis (though we think that in most cases, just one entry is enough).

Where to discuss problems and enhancements suggestions?

Both discussions about future enhancements and current limitations and bugs should be done on the LabelFuture page.

Are "collections" valid imprints?

This is a difficult question that can't be solved generally, but only on a case by case basis. Hence, the use of a label entry for collections names must be made with extra-care. Definitely, one must not use collection names printed on the front cover as a label name, but only if the collection name is used in place of the label name (usually on the back cover, next to a catalog number), and is really used by the producing label as is. For example, the "Verve Jazz Masters" releases are from label "Verve", dot, and "Jazz Masters" should be part of the release name. On the other hand, "Original Jazz Classics" is an imprint, owned by label "Fantasy".

How do you "relate" a label and a release?

When adding a ReleaseEvent, you can additionally specify a LabelName, CatalogNumber, and an EAN. This is a core relation between labels and releases (not to be confused with AdvancedRelationships). At that time, there are no AdvancedRelationships between labels and releases.

Discussion

Open questions and miscellaneous discussions that don't yet have a place in the F.A.Q. and doesn't belong to LabelFuture should go to the LabelDiscussion page. Alternatively, you can post your question to either the UsersMailingList or StyleMailingList, and possibly edit one of these pages afterward with the result if you think it's of general interest.