User:FauxFaux/NotDuplicateReleases

Here exists a list of release-pairs that http://faux.uwcs.co.uk/dupscan2.html should ignore. Please include a link and a reason, one 'pair' per line.

Do not use the following reasons, they should be fixed elsewhere:

• Trans*ated. (go add the AR)
• The times on one of the discs is wrong. (go fix it)
• ..is a later/earlier release of.. (go add the AR).

The list:

• Complete String Quartets - Quartetto Italiano (Disc 8 of 10), The Late String Quartets (Quartetto Italiano) (disc 2) - Same disc in different serieses.
• Meltdown, Meltdown (disc 1) - Same disc, alone and in a disc set
• 1988-12-28: Live in Seattle: Sub Pop 200 Release Party, the Underground, Seattle, WA, USA, 1988-12-28: Seattle 1988: Sub Pop 200 Release Party, the Underground, Seattle, WA, USA - Same show, different bootlegs
• 1989-11-27: The Concerts in Italy (disc 1): Piper Club, Rome, Italy, 1989-11-27: Piper 1989: Piper Club, Rome, Italy - Same show, different bootlegs
• 1990-04-10: Blind Pig Beginnings: Blind Pig, Ann Arbor, MI, USA, 1990-04-10: Live: Blind Pig, Ann Arbor, MI, USA - Same recording, different masters (but neither is a remaster of the other)
• 1993-07-23: Heart-Shaped Box: New Music Seminar, Roseland Ballroom, New York, NY, USA (disc 8), 1993-07-23: Heart Shaped Box, Volume 2: New Music Seminar, Roseland Ballroom, New York, NY, USA (disc 4) - Different box sets
• 1991-12-28: Smells Like..., Volume 2: Pat O'Brien Pavilion, Del Mar Fairgrounds, Del Mar, CA, USA, 1991-12-28: Lithium: Pat O'Brien Pavilion, Del Mar Fairgrounds, Del Mar, CA, USA - Same show, different bootlegs
• 1992-10-30: Bang Tango: Estadio José Amalfitani, Buenos Aires, Argentina, 1992-10-30: Out of Bloom: Estadio José Amalfitani, Buenos Aires, Argentina - Same show, different bootlegs
• 1990-08-17: Blew: The Palladium, Hollywood, CA, USA, 1990-08-17: Love Buzz: The Palladium, Hollywood, Los Angeles, CA, USA - Same show, different bootlegs
• Heart Shaped Box, Volume 2 (disc 2),Heart-Shaped Box (disc 6) - Same CD, different box sets
• Heart Shaped Box, Volume 2 (disc 2),Heart Shaped Box, Volume 6 - Same CD, different box sets
• Heart-Shaped Box (disc 6),Heart Shaped Box, Volume 6 - Same CD, different box sets
• 1991-11-05: More Live Tits: Astoria Theatre, London, UK, 1991-11-05: Live Tits: Astoria Theatre, London, UK - rerelease under a different name, not a remaster
• 1993-07-23: Heart-Shaped Box: New Music Seminar, Roseland Ballroom, New York, NY, USA (disc 7), 1993-07-23: Heart Shaped Box, Volume 2: New Music Seminar, Roseland Ballroom, New York, NY, USA (disc 3) - Same CD, different box sets
• 1994-02-14: Come as You Are: Le Zenith, Paris, France, 1994-02-14: Live at Verdun Auditorium: Le Zenith, Paris, France - same show, different bootlegs
• 1990-08-17: It Wasn't the First Time in History That a Monster Was Mistaken for a God: The Palladium, Hollywood, CA, USA, 1990-08-17: At the Hollywood Palladium: The Palladium, Hollywood, CA, USA - same show, different bootlegs
• 1993-11-18: The Lunatic Is in My Head: MTV Unplugged, Sony Studios, New York City, NY, USA, Fatal Attraction (disc 2) - same show, different bootlegs
• 1992-01-30: From the Muddy Banks of the Murray: The Barton Theatre, Adelaide, Australia, 1992-01-30: Down Under '92 (disc 2): The Barton Theatre, Adelaide, Australia - same show, different bootlegs
• 1990-02-15: Life's Like Pit-Bulls on Crack: Raji's, Hollywood, CA, USA, 1990-02-15: The Demos: Raji's, Hollywood, CA, USA - same show, different bootlegs
• The Legends of the XXth Century (disc 1), Forever Gold (disc 1) - same bootleg comp, different publishers and titles
• 1994-02-22: Tour Over Europe 1994: Palaghiaccio di Marino, Rome, Italy, 1994-02-22: Kurt's Grand Finale: Palaghiaccio di Marino, Rome, Italy - same show, different bootlegs
• 1990-08-17: The Lost Concert: The Palladium, Hollywood, CA, USA, 1990-08-17: CA Überalles: The Palladium, Hollywood, CA, USA - same show, different bootlegs
• Heart-Shaped Box (disc 4), Heart Shaped Box, Volume 4 - same CD, different box sets
• Legacy 1988-1994 (disc 2), Legacy 1988-1994 (disc 1) - same CD, different box sets
• The Legends of the XXth Century (disc 2), Forever Gold (disc 2) - same bootleg comp, different publishers and titles
• Outcesticide 5: Gone but Not Forgotten, Rare Tracks, Volume IV - same bootleg comp, different publishers and titles
• 1994-02-22: Roma... Final Board: Palaghiaccio di Marino, Rome, Italy, Legacy 1988-1994 (disc 8) - same show, different bootlegs and box sets
• Unhappy (disc 1), Unhappy - single disc vs two disc version
• Outcesticide: In Memory of Kurt Cobain, Outcesticide, Volume 1 - same bootleg comp, different publishers, series, and titles
• Phases: A Nonesuch Retrospective (disc 1), Music for 18 Musicians (Steve Reich and Musicians) (Steve Reich) - same CD; the former was issued as part of a box set
• 06.10.60, 60:00 - two completely different releases that are exactly 60:00 long (with hand-entered track times)
• 1991-12-28: See You Soon: Pat O'Brien Pavilion, Del Mar Fairgrounds, Del Mar, CA, USA, 1991-12-28: The Club: Pat O'Brien Pavilion, Del Mar Fairgrounds, Del Mar, CA, USA - same show, different bootlegs
• Acoustic Tunes, Food Loose and Fancy Fruits - The latter is a copy of the former album used as promotional gadget.
• Arac Attack, Eight Legged Freaks - The latter is the US version (i.e. without Iraq references) of the former album.
• Under the Waves, On the Shore (disc 2) - Released under a different name in each country. The first being the German Glitterhouse label release and the latter the US Narnack label release.
• 1993-11-18: Performance: MTV Unplugged, Sony Studios, New York City, NY, USA, 1993-11-18: American Acoustic Tour 1993: MTV Unplugged, Sony Studios, New York City, NY, USA - Identical, but totally unrelated - both sourced from the same broadcast, but different (and unrelated) labels/releases.
• 1990-08-17: I Hate Myself and I Want to Die: The Palladium, Hollywood, CA, USA (disc 1), 1990-08-17: Live and Demo(n)s: The Palladium, Hollywood, CA, USA (disc 1) - One's a renamed rerelease of the other, but no idea as to when either came out to be able to set the AR.
• 1991-11-25: Paradiso, Amsterdam, The Netherlands, 1991-11-25: Smells Like Success: Paradiso, Amsterdam, The Netherlands - Different master sources (at least 8 different masters exist for this show).

Comments

FauxFaux: Feel free to remove the last 2 I added, as they ignore your second bullet point, but I think just "go fix the times" is a bit difficult, when someone doesn't actually have the releases to fix the times from. Shouldn't this be for clearing out the dupes, to avoid other people wasting time trying to also figure out that release pair isn't a dupe? (Now, setting the DQ on each in the pair to low, as we can't know which has the wrong times... that's an alternative way we could handle these.) -- BrianSchweitzer 07:32, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

• I fixed both. And please don't do that. Crap ought to live in reports whose purpose is to list crap... If you start listing them here instead, what's the point of the report? Please add such comments (eg: what needs to be done) directly into the release annotation instead, and let them appear where they are actually useful (in the report). Cheers. -- dmppanda 16:52, 08 November 2007 (UTC)
  • It was after discussion with FauxFaux that I added them here. In the case of the Heartbeat release, nice work fixing the times - but as those 2 are not dupes, they still don't belong on the report of possibly duplicate releases, thus the exclusion here. For the other, I think you're jumping the gun. You went to freedb, but ignored the original source import for both from freedb, and are removing the one more likely to be correct. I, instead, went through the archive.org backups of the group's page back to when each cd had a tracklist available - and both tracklists showed as correct. Again, not dupes. That one or the other has the wrong structure and/or times? Yes, agreed. But exclusion here was also entirely correct. By definition, if two releases are not duplicates, ignoring all other issues they may have, they ought to then be excluded from a "dupescan" report. -- BrianSchweitzer 21:46, 08 November 2007 (UTC)
    • I didn't ignored the original source import. Your facts are wrong, and apparently you're confused about how freedb works and what data it has. They were imported from two distincts entries, one of which being certainly bogus. They *were not imported from the same freedb entry*, and from what I gathered I'm removing the one *likely to be the bogus one* (again, if you ever have any additional infos that we don't, please share them - link please! not words). -- dmppanda 09:37, 09 November 2007 (UTC)
      • dmppanda - Since we got this resolved, and so we can clear out old comments from here (so they don't clutter up this page), if you are agreed, I'd be fine with clearing all these comments (ie, ok on my end for a DeleteWhenCooked for this entire set of comments :) ). -- BrianSchweitzer 06:25, 28 November 2007 (UTC)