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There are loads of pages that deal with style issues, editing issues and so on that form a BigMess. They could probably be called "Moderating Issues" but "Moderating" is [[Bad Terminology|BadTerminology]] and "X-Issues" is a bad [[Wiki Name|WikiName]].
There are loads of pages that deal with style issues, editing issues and so on that form a BigMess. They could probably be called "Moderating Issues" but "Moderating" is [[Bad Terminology|BadTerminology]] and "X-Issues" is a bad [[Wiki Name|WikiName]].
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">[[User:TarragonAllen|TarragonAllen]] proposed to name this section [[Editing Guidelines|EditingGuidelines]], and that page has been created, but is still only a discussion (monologue, really) about what should go there.
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">[[User:TarragonAllen|TarragonAllen]] proposed to name this section [[Editing Guideline|EditingGuideline]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s, and that page has been created, but is still only a discussion (monologue, really) about what should go there.
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We still have to [[Restructure The Wiki|RestructureTheWiki]] to group them. This is no easy task because the problems with these pages include (but are in no way limited to):
We still have to [[Restructure The Wiki|RestructureTheWiki]] to group them. This is no easy task because the problems with these pages include (but are in no way limited to):
* Some pages have very '''bad titles'''. If the title is a bad [[Wiki Name|WikiName]] or does not describe what the page is about, then it is obviously difficult to link to that page. The best thing is probably to move the content to a better named page.
* Some pages have very '''bad titles'''. If the title is a bad [[Wiki Name|WikiName]] or does not describe what the page is about, then it is obviously difficult to link to that page. The best thing is probably to move the content to a better named page. see [[Bad WikiName|BadWikiName]].
* They are '''poorly linked''' pages within the Wiki. Often only one or two pages link to them. Here we need to find the pages that are related to them and add the links.
* They are '''poorly linked''' pages within the Wiki. Often only one or two pages link to them. Here we need to find the pages that are related to them and add the links. see [[Orphaned Pages|OrphanedPages]] and [[Needs Intertwingling|NeedsIntertwingling]].
* Often the pages are in '''bad shape'''. Some are badly laid out discussions that need a tentative summary. Some have not been edited since an eternity.
* Often the pages are in '''bad shape'''. Some are badly laid out discussions that need a tentative summary. Some have not been edited since an eternity. see [[Needs Editing|NeedsEditing]] and [[Needs Updating|NeedsUpdating]].


Please help along! If you feel like editing or properly linking one of these pages, please go ahead! To help in doing this the pages that form the BigMess are listed below:
Please help along! If you feel like editing or properly linking one of these pages, please go ahead! To help in doing this the pages that form the BigMess are listed below:
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* [[Unresolved Style Issues|UnresolvedStyleIssues]] - Is a list of unanswered questions and a bit of discussion. seems to be quite up to date by the history. Is this development or what?
* [[Unresolved Style Issues|UnresolvedStyleIssues]] - Is a list of unanswered questions and a bit of discussion. seems to be quite up to date by the history. Is this development or what?
* [[Talk:Odd Release|OddReleaseDiscussion]] - A huge page of problems and ideas that are put there and then left alone (seems to me).
* [[Talk:Odd Release|OddReleaseDiscussion]] - A huge page of problems and ideas that are put there and then left alone (seems to me).
* [[General Style Guidelines|GeneralStyleGuidelines]] - [[Image:Checkmark.png]] page has been deleted
* GeneralStyleGuidelines - [[Image:Checkmark.png]] page has been deleted
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">What is the difference between this page and the [http://www.musicbrainz.org/style.html official style-guide]? The page itself is in good shape but baldy linked to the rest of the wiki (The wiki should contain tons of links to this page!).
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">What is the difference between this page and the [http://www.musicbrainz.org/style.html official style-guide]? The page itself is in good shape but baldy linked to the rest of the wiki (The wiki should contain tons of links to this page!).
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* [[Moderation Type Help|ModerationTypeHelp]] - in poor shape (lots of blanks, long page); this needs to be incorporated piece by piece into the [[Edit Type|EditType]] pages and then junked (with remaining bits going to [[Editing Guidelines|EditingGuidelines]] or other pages).
* [[Moderation Type Help|ModerationTypeHelp]] - in poor shape (lots of blanks, long page); this needs to be incorporated piece by piece into the [[Edit Type|EditType]] pages and then junked (with remaining bits going to [[Editing Guideline|EditingGuideline]]<code><nowiki></nowiki></code>s or other pages).


===Stuff that is Development===
===Stuff that is Development===
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I will create [[MusicBrainz Development|MusicBrainzDevelopment]] to group all this stuff. --[[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]]
I will create [[MusicBrainz Development|MusicBrainzDevelopment]] to group all this stuff. --[[User:DonRedman|DonRedman]]
* [[Waiting For Moderation|WaitingForModeration]] - This is very badly named. (It is a discussion of a [[Current Problem|CurrentProblem]])
* [[Waiting For Moderation|WaitingForModeration]] - This is very badly named. (It is a discussion of a [[Current Problem|CurrentProblem]])
* [[Better Album Recognition|BetterAlbumRecognition]] - should be linked to the [[MusicBrainz Tagger|MusicBrainzTagger]] and [[Current Work|CurrentWork]]
* [[Better Release Recognition|BetterReleaseRecognition]] - should be linked to the [[MusicBrainz Tagger|MusicBrainzTagger]] and [[Current Work|CurrentWork]]
* We started off with [[Earning Privileges|EarningPrivileges]], then [[Karma System|KarmaSystem]], then [[Editor Rating|EditorRating]]. There is a difference between two concepts of changing [[Editor Rights|EditorRights]]? or [[Vote Weights|VoteWeights]]?. But the pages do not make this distinction.
* We started off with [[Earning Privileges|EarningPrivileges]], then [[Karma System|KarmaSystem]], then [[Editor Rating|EditorRating]]. There is a difference between two concepts of changing [[Editor Rights|EditorRights]]? or [[Vote Weights|VoteWeights]]?. But the pages do not make this distinction.
* [[Editor Rating|EditorRating]] and [[Advanced Moderation|AdvancedModeration]] are extended proposals for future moderation schemes. But [[Advanced Moderation|AdvancedModeration]] is a very [[Bad WikiName|BadWikiName]]
* [[Editor Rating|EditorRating]] and [[Advanced Moderation|AdvancedModeration]] are extended proposals for future moderation schemes. But [[Advanced Moderation|AdvancedModeration]] is a very [[Bad WikiName|BadWikiName]]

Revision as of 09:10, 16 February 2008

There are loads of pages that deal with style issues, editing issues and so on that form a BigMess. They could probably be called "Moderating Issues" but "Moderating" is BadTerminology and "X-Issues" is a bad WikiName.

  • TarragonAllen proposed to name this section EditingGuidelines, and that page has been created, but is still only a discussion (monologue, really) about what should go there.

We still have to RestructureTheWiki to group them. This is no easy task because the problems with these pages include (but are in no way limited to):

  • Some pages have very bad titles. If the title is a bad WikiName or does not describe what the page is about, then it is obviously difficult to link to that page. The best thing is probably to move the content to a better named page. see BadWikiName.
  • They are poorly linked pages within the Wiki. Often only one or two pages link to them. Here we need to find the pages that are related to them and add the links. see OrphanedPages and NeedsIntertwingling.
  • Often the pages are in bad shape. Some are badly laid out discussions that need a tentative summary. Some have not been edited since an eternity. see NeedsEditing and NeedsUpdating.

Please help along! If you feel like editing or properly linking one of these pages, please go ahead! To help in doing this the pages that form the BigMess are listed below:

  • MusicBrainzPhilosophy - claims to be "a page for "discussion on guiding principles and philosophies" as I noticed there are some questions of philosophy on data collection and purpose etc. that should probably be meta-factors driving other decisions." As such it should be MusicBrainzPhilosophyDiscussion. And we would need a tentative summary of that discussion in MusicBrainzPhilosophy.
  • UnresolvedStyleIssues - Is a list of unanswered questions and a bit of discussion. seems to be quite up to date by the history. Is this development or what?
  • OddReleaseDiscussion - A huge page of problems and ideas that are put there and then left alone (seems to me).
  • GeneralStyleGuidelines - Checkmark.png page has been deleted
  • What is the difference between this page and the official style-guide? The page itself is in good shape but baldy linked to the rest of the wiki (The wiki should contain tons of links to this page!).
  • ModerationTypeHelp - in poor shape (lots of blanks, long page); this needs to be incorporated piece by piece into the EditType pages and then junked (with remaining bits going to EditingGuidelines or other pages).

Stuff that is Development

I will create MusicBrainzDevelopment to group all this stuff. --DonRedman

Authors: DonRedman, TarragonAllen

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