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=Style Guideline for Live Bootlegs=


''Note:'' This guideline applies to bootleg [[Release|releases]] and [[Release Group|release groups]]. For titling of live [[Recording|recordings]], see [[Style/Recording#Live recordings|live recording style]].
[[Image:Attention.png]] '''Status:''' ''This is a [[Proposed Style Guideline|ProposedStyleGuideline]] trying to incorporate [[Untitled Bootleg Style|UntitledBootlegStyle]] and a new style for titled live bootlegs.''


== Guidelines ==
There are two kinds of live bootlegs: those that have a title and those that have none.


For bootlegs with actual titles, just follow the standard [[Style/Titles|titles guideline]].
Live bootlegs '''without a title''':
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">'''An untitled bootleg of a live concert must be named by concatenating its date and location information as follows:'''
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">''YYYY-MM-DD: Location''
</ul>
</ul>


For untitled bootlegs, use its date and location information, in the form "YYYY-MM-DD: Venue, City, State/Province, Country".
Live bootlegs '''with a title''':
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">'''The title of live bootleg that already has a distinct name ''can'' be extended with date and location information as follows:'''
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">''[YYYY-MM-DD: ]Title[: Location]''
</ul>
</ul>


=== Notes ===
The '''Location''' must be formatted as
Country names should match their [https://musicbrainz.org/search?query=type%3Acountry&type=area&limit=25&method=advanced names in the database], except for UK and USA, which should be abbreviated.
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">'''[Place, ]City, [State, ]Country'''
</ul>


States in the USA and Canada should always be listed (in their abbreviated form). States and provinces elsewhere are optional, and should only be added when they're necessary to further distinguish cities with identical names.
where:
* the parts in square brackets are optional
* ''YYYY-MM-DD'' is the date of the recording including the year (YYYY), month (MM) and day of month (DD)
* ''Place'' is the name of the location where the concert took place (name of the hotel, stadium, hall, etc.)
* ''City'' is the city, town or village
* ''State'' is interesting to distinguish cities with identical names from each other (like ''Houston, TX'' for Houston in Texas)
* ''Country'' the country.


Additional date information can be added before the colon, in the form: “YYYY-MM-DD, additional information: Venue, City, State/Province, Country”. This should only be used to distinguish events that took place the same day or if the event is advertised as such. Typical examples includes early/late show, dinner, matinée.
==Rationale==


Release groups which feature a complete live session and additional bonus tracks should still follow this guideline. It doesn't matter whether the bonus tracks are live tracks from other concerts or studio recordings.
In a lot of cases the most important information for live bootlegs is the date when the concert took place. Hiding this information for bootlegs where the person who compiled the release added a title means, that it is harder to find a special recording of a live session, because live bootlegs often don't have a release date.

Adding the place is useful for finding all concerts an artist performed in one city over the years or all concerts that took place in a special location by using the search interface. Besides that this kind of information would be lost or nearly lost when it was added to the annotation.

On the other hand, there are bootleg releases of special concerts that have a well known title. In those cases its normally appropriate to list them under their title only.


==Examples==
==Examples==


;[[Release:cf731f61-d8ba-438a-b346-644456fd27e2|2008-12-07: Rose Garden, Portland, OR, USA]]
Live bootlegs '''without a title''':
: A standard live bootleg.
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">[http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=339201 2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, The Netherlands]
;[[Release:5555caea-3de8-480b-9952-421471a62517|2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands]]
</ul>
: A live bootleg with bonus tracks.

;[[Release:bde0a56e-b2a8-48f8-8563-8d24ee4b2c2b|2008-12-17, early show: Mellon Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, USA]]
Live bootlegs '''with a well-known title''':
: A live bootleg with additional date information.
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">[http://musicbrainz.org/showalbum.html?albumid=324553 Gaslight Tapes] (may be replaced with a better one, as this is quasi-legitimate)
</ul>

''Please add examples for every described case here.''

==Discussion==


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Latest revision as of 10:52, 12 November 2021

Status: This is an official style guideline.

Note: This guideline applies to bootleg releases and release groups. For titling of live recordings, see live recording style.

Guidelines

For bootlegs with actual titles, just follow the standard titles guideline.

For untitled bootlegs, use its date and location information, in the form "YYYY-MM-DD: Venue, City, State/Province, Country".

Notes

Country names should match their names in the database, except for UK and USA, which should be abbreviated.

States in the USA and Canada should always be listed (in their abbreviated form). States and provinces elsewhere are optional, and should only be added when they're necessary to further distinguish cities with identical names.

Additional date information can be added before the colon, in the form: “YYYY-MM-DD, additional information: Venue, City, State/Province, Country”. This should only be used to distinguish events that took place the same day or if the event is advertised as such. Typical examples includes early/late show, dinner, matinée.

Release groups which feature a complete live session and additional bonus tracks should still follow this guideline. It doesn't matter whether the bonus tracks are live tracks from other concerts or studio recordings.

Examples

2008-12-07: Rose Garden, Portland, OR, USA
A standard live bootleg.
2002-05-02: Ahoy, Rotterdam, Netherlands
A live bootleg with bonus tracks.
2008-12-17, early show: Mellon Arena, Pittsburgh, PA, USA
A live bootleg with additional date information.
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