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== Purpose of the Special Purpose Artists ==
Status: [[Needs Intertwingling|NeedsIntertwingling]]


Several special artists exist in the database to deal with unusual cases. There always are some unnoticed bogus artists, but those Special Purpose Artists (SPAs) listed here exist officially, used to handle each of these various types of special case artists.
===Special cases===


== List of official SPAs ==
A number of artist names are used for special cases; some of them are directly addressed in the style guides:
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=1 Various Artists]
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=41744 data track]
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=97546 unknown]
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=105725 no artist]


* [[Artist:f731ccc4-e22a-43af-a747-64213329e088|[anonymous]]] - The track artist is both unknown and unknowable. If you are not sure whether to use [[Artist:f731ccc4-e22a-43af-a747-64213329e088|[anonymous]]] or [[Artist:125ec42a-7229-4250-afc5-e057484327fe|[unknown]]], use [[Artist:125ec42a-7229-4250-afc5-e057484327fe|[unknown]]].
===Informal special cases===


* [[Artist:33cf029c-63b0-41a0-9855-be2a3665fb3b|[data]]] - Used for data CDs and data tracks (additional tracks on audio CDs that contain data other than standard CD audio). Note that [[Data Track Style|data track style]] should also be used to title data tracks.
Others are used more informally:
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=15071 anon.]
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=92121 dialogue]
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=137132 trad.]
* [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=244574 gregorian chant]


* [[Artist:314e1c25-dde7-4e4d-b2f4-0a7b9f7c56dc|[dialogue]]] - Used for tracks which consist solely of dialogue, and for which a better credit can't be found (as such, this can be seen as a more specific "unknown/anonymous"). If a better credit can be found, use that if it's at all sensible. For example, the [[recording:1220c6aa-41a5-47b4-99e1-9dd586e491cc|"Royale With Cheese"]] discussion from Pulp Fiction would be best assigned to "Samuel L. Jackson & John Travolta", not to [dialogue], since the actors talking are known even if not directly credited on the tracklist. If it seems against common sense to list all speakers in the artist credit, such as for a recording including several dozen speakers, then using [dialogue] is always an acceptable option. In any case, the speakers' performances within the track should always be indicated by a [[rt:0fdbe3c6-7700-4a31-ae54-b53f06ae1cfa|vocals relationship]] (generally ''spoken vocals''), if at all possible.
===Incorrect collection artists===


* [[Artist:eec63d3c-3b81-4ad4-b1e4-7c147d4d2b61|[no artist]]] - There is no artist. (Recorded silence or noise, if it is attributed to any artist, should be assigned to that artist and ''not'' to [[Artist:eec63d3c-3b81-4ad4-b1e4-7c147d4d2b61|[no artist]]].)
Others are kept only to accommodate for the various mistagged albums in the FreeDB. No albums should be added to them; instructions on what to do with the existing ones can be found in the relevant "artist's" annotation:
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=104 Disney] - has its own wikipage. [[Disney]]
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=10039 Data CD]
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=22172 Instrumental] - beware that there actually is an artist called Instrumental, who has at least one release on that page!
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">If that is true, that release & those tracks should be moved to another Instrumental, with an [[Artist Comment|ArtistComment]] to differentiate between them... --[[User:azertus|azertus]]
</ul>
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=23323 Musical]
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=36434 MusicBrainz Test Artist]
* [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=287861 MusicBrainz Test Artist] (Yet another test artist) - to test behavior of Various Artists [[Add Album|AddAlbum]] and [[Import Album|ImportAlbum]] edits.
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=139603 Soundtrack]
* [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=233138 Classical]


* [[artist:9be7f096-97ec-4615-8957-8d40b5dcbc41|[traditional]]] - Used for writer/composer (and related) credits when the work in question pre-dates any written or recorded version(s), having originally been passed down from musician to musician. Rather than being attributable to one [anonymous] or [unknown] artist/collaboration, this work is better described as having emerged from a musical tradition.
===Collection artists===


* [[Artist:125ec42a-7229-4250-afc5-e057484327fe|[unknown]]] - Used when a particular artist is unknown, but is potentially discoverable with further research. '''Please do some research before using this artist'''; this artist should '''not''' be used simply as a "lazy easy solution" to an artist you don't happen to know offhand.
There are some entries in the database that do not represent artist names, but names of collections for which the real artists are not known, or names of software companies.
* [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=32604 Lifescapes]
* [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=37456 Vineyard Music]
* [http://musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=135522 Nintendo]


* [[Artist:89ad4ac3-39f7-470e-963a-56509c546377|Various Artists]] - Used only for compilation-type releases or release groups containing tracks by multiple different artists. This artist shouldn't generally be used for recordings, tracks or works.
==Discussion==


== Subsets ==
Created this page in response to the following moderations, as a better forum for discussion of these artist names. Feel free to expand/improve the documentation above as well...


=== Subsets of [unknown] ===
[http://www.musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2463580 http://www.musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2463580] [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2472728 http://www.musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=2472728]


Sometimes it is useful to be a bit more specific when using [[Artist:125ec42a-7229-4250-afc5-e057484327fe|[unknown]]]. You can use one of the following as the artist credit if applicable:
----


* [christmas music]
* [[Artist:66ea0139-149f-4a0c-8fbf-5ea9ec4a6e49|[Disney]]]
* [[Artist:a0ef7e1d-44ff-4039-9435-7d5fefdeecc9|[theatre]]]
* [classical music]
* [soundtrack]


Always include the square brackets ([]) to indicate that this is not the artist as credited.
I think it is counterproductive that artist for anonymous is [anon.] but artist for trad. is[[traditional]] they should be the same. either both the abbreviated or both the full word.


As with regular use of [[Artist:125ec42a-7229-4250-afc5-e057484327fe|[unknown]]], these should only be used as a last resort, pending further research.
Someone mentioned something about that on the mailing list, but I do not recall who ~[[User:mo|mo]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">''I thought there was something from [[User:TarragonAllen|TarragonAllen]] saying it should be expanded (à la Volume) and I tend to agree, preferring[[anonymous]] to [anon.] for this.'' [[User:Dupuy|@alex]]
</ul>


=== Subsets of [no artist] ===
Where should 'artists' like Nintendo and Microsoft go? --[[User:Zout|Zout]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">In some cases, there are audio tracks for games that are "production music" and there's no proper composer other than "the employees of the game division of XXX Co." In those cases, having Nintendo or Microsoft as the artist is probably as correct as we can possibly get. It's worth noting in an [[Artist Annotation|ArtistAnnotation]] that many games do in fact have a credited composer or music engineer who should be the artist. [[User:Dupuy|@alex]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">I'd like to comment that Nintendo, much like 'soundtrack' is a placement artist type thing for Nintendo game-soundtracks, as Nintendo has yet to make computer games, are all discs under Nintendo, music CD's. Have moved Zelda ones to Koji Kondo for example. to be confusing one Age of Empires disc under 'Microsoft' is not a game CD but an actuall soundtrack. IMHO this sould not be under 'Data CD'. so in lieu of all this I have thought to go look over my game CD's to see if there is any music-composing info in the credits.. ~[[User:mo|mo]]
</ul>
</ul>


Similarly, it may be useful to be more specific when using [[Artist:eec63d3c-3b81-4ad4-b1e4-7c147d4d2b61|[no artist]]]. You can use one of the following as the artist credit if applicable:
---


* [[Artist:90068d37-bae7-4292-be4a-704c145bd616|[church chimes]]]
I think we could build another special Artist, altough I'm generally against this kind of complication. I'm talking about Gregorian music that is quite particular. Strictly following rules it has to be [anon.] because no one knows who wrote it, but it is in fact the born of all occidental music and probably deserves an exception. Moreover it's a very limited and unique type of music that is always grouped together in phisical and online stores. Now on MB we have a lot of release spread under bogus Artist and I wish we could fix it. --[[User:ClutchEr2|ClutchEr2]]
* [[Artist:80a8851f-444c-4539-892b-ad2a49292aa9|[language instruction]]]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">''I'd say to go for it; we, the users build the database. Just add a clear annotation describing what the artist is for...'' --[[User:azertus|azertus]]
* [nature sounds]
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">''(noting that I didn't quite understand you wanted to create new artist [Gregorian] or similar, an idea I am not *that* much against, really)'' but then comes the other task. of deciding when something is Gregorian or when something is 'anon' ? ~[[User:mo|mo]]
* [news report]
</ul>
<ul><li style="list-style-type:none">You might want to clean up [http://www.musicbrainz.org/showartist.html?artistid=87196 Gregorian Chants]... --[[User:Zout|Zout]]
</ul>
</ul>


They should only be used if the category is applicable, and if you would otherwise use [[Artist:eec63d3c-3b81-4ad4-b1e4-7c147d4d2b61|[no artist]]].
----(for now, eventually Documentation or something)


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Latest revision as of 10:09, 26 April 2023

Status: This is an official style guideline.

Purpose of the Special Purpose Artists

Several special artists exist in the database to deal with unusual cases. There always are some unnoticed bogus artists, but those Special Purpose Artists (SPAs) listed here exist officially, used to handle each of these various types of special case artists.

List of official SPAs

  • [data] - Used for data CDs and data tracks (additional tracks on audio CDs that contain data other than standard CD audio). Note that data track style should also be used to title data tracks.
  • [dialogue] - Used for tracks which consist solely of dialogue, and for which a better credit can't be found (as such, this can be seen as a more specific "unknown/anonymous"). If a better credit can be found, use that if it's at all sensible. For example, the "Royale With Cheese" discussion from Pulp Fiction would be best assigned to "Samuel L. Jackson & John Travolta", not to [dialogue], since the actors talking are known even if not directly credited on the tracklist. If it seems against common sense to list all speakers in the artist credit, such as for a recording including several dozen speakers, then using [dialogue] is always an acceptable option. In any case, the speakers' performances within the track should always be indicated by a vocals relationship (generally spoken vocals), if at all possible.
  • [no artist] - There is no artist. (Recorded silence or noise, if it is attributed to any artist, should be assigned to that artist and not to [no artist].)
  • [traditional] - Used for writer/composer (and related) credits when the work in question pre-dates any written or recorded version(s), having originally been passed down from musician to musician. Rather than being attributable to one [anonymous] or [unknown] artist/collaboration, this work is better described as having emerged from a musical tradition.
  • [unknown] - Used when a particular artist is unknown, but is potentially discoverable with further research. Please do some research before using this artist; this artist should not be used simply as a "lazy easy solution" to an artist you don't happen to know offhand.
  • Various Artists - Used only for compilation-type releases or release groups containing tracks by multiple different artists. This artist shouldn't generally be used for recordings, tracks or works.

Subsets

Subsets of [unknown]

Sometimes it is useful to be a bit more specific when using [unknown]. You can use one of the following as the artist credit if applicable:

Always include the square brackets ([]) to indicate that this is not the artist as credited.

As with regular use of [unknown], these should only be used as a last resort, pending further research.

Subsets of [no artist]

Similarly, it may be useful to be more specific when using [no artist]. You can use one of the following as the artist credit if applicable:

They should only be used if the category is applicable, and if you would otherwise use [no artist].

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