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|Status: inactive in MB for the time being, due to some lame real life excuse :-). Friends know how to get in touch. Others can PM using MB mail interface (if they don't expect a fast answer). -- dmppanda 07:31, 07 July 2008 (UTC)|
- 1 Who am I?
- 2 What am I doing in MB?
- 3 What does that means for you?
- 4 Editing suggestions
- 5 Young blood that matters
- 6 Not so young blood (are now autoeditors)
- 7 Ol' mates
- 8 Catching up some n00bs
- 9 Other bookmarked editors
- 10 TODO
- 11 Label sorting TODO
- 12 To watch / tidy
- 13 Funniest typos
- 14 Extremely politically incorrect thoughts
- 15 They Love Me, and They Let Other People Know About It
- 16 Using rating in a sensical way
- 17 Spoken languages
Who am I?
I'm a Brainzer mainly known as dmppanda (though I sometime use random other nicks: Mangled, workingMoose, chocoMoose...). My emails are usually just signed Olivier.
During the ol' days, I was formerly known as The Creature of Dr teleSTEIN, and as The Crazy Annotations Master.
What am I doing in MB?
As an editor:
- I'm working mostly in the jazz part of the database, though I make intrusions into other territories, from hip-hop to classical, to anything sounding experimental, head-shakin' or body movin'
- To some extent, I'm also involved in the effort to enhance the French data. The tracking page for that effort is the infamous FrogsTidyingMarathon.
- I am subscribed to quite a lot of artists on which I usually review every change. Though I'm not the "biggest" subscriber here (I think at least mudcrow and drsaunde have more), I may be the bitchiest :)
- I have a soft-spot for intensive discographic researches and release data documentation. From time to time, I'm also chasing bogus DiscIDs.
- Along with Joan Whittaker, we made some harmonization work on jazz composition titles, archived in Jazz/Compositions.
- An auto-editor for two years, I have now contributed my small share (almost exactly 1% of the total number of edits made to the database)
- Lately, I have been working mainly on various labels vaults.
As a WikiZen:
- I'am the author of various tomfooleries, from the Completist to the aforementioned FrogsTidyingMarathon... and lately, the Ranting Sandbox
- ... and started learning to handle MoinMoin while setting-up the Jazz section...
- ... wrote the Label documentation (most of which can be seen in a flat display by looking at the), and rewrote a number of other documentation pages, for the DocumentationRelease project...
- ... for which I maintain a number of WikiDocs (as a TransclusionEditor - and obviously, a member of the AdminGroup)
- With murdos, my partner-in-crime WikiWarden, we "took over" the Wiki ealier in 2007, in the hope to make a difference enhancing its overall quality, and make some steps in moving it forward. Some of the efforts related to this noble task are documented under the WikiWardening page
- I also started maintaining bug tracking pages organized by topics (LabelFuture, AnnotationFuture, ...), though I'm falling behind
As a community chit-chatter:
- I usually participate in the MailingList
s discussions: mainly the style list, discussions about Labels and French stuff, and other random topics I feel inclined to participate in
- Depending on the period of the year, I wander on the IRC channel, be it for moosing mo or trying to help newbies
- Once in a while, I check the MusicBrainzForum
s, though I can't say I'm fond of forums
Random other stuff I introduced:
- AdvancedRelationship artist wrote liner notes for release.
- the new language Artificial (Other) (see the badly misnamed ArtificialArtists)
What does that means for you?
- Edit my artists with extra-care, or face my wrath :-)
Contact me  if you need:
- help on documenting, researching, or editing (jazz) material
- help on fixing French spelling or capitalization 
- help on some other topic... don't expect miracles, though :-)
... or if you:
- want to participate in the WikiWardening efforts
- want to participate in the DocumentationRelease efforts
- want some specific WikiPage to be put in the TransclusionTable
- want some specific WikiPage to be removed/renamed
 be aware that I sometime disappear from MusicBrainz due to the obligation to earn my living :-) . In such cases, I still answer private mails, though I'm less active.
- If you're a jazz geek, you may want to take a look at either the Jazz/Compositions or Jazz/Collections pages
- If you have enough French in your bag and want to mess with it, try the FrogsTidyingMarathon
- If you have a taste for tortuous and painful discographic researchs, help me enhance one of these:
- Django Reinhardt
- Thelonious Monk
- Eric Dolphy
- Charlie Parker
- Billie Holiday
- Ella Fitzgerald
- Duke Ellington
- Erik Satie
- Ornette Coleman
- Charles Mingus
Young blood that matters
Watch them. They are doing good. With your advices and votes, they can learn further and do very good.
- jahrynx (Editor:jahrynx) open stack: yet another French editor (come over, French community!), I noticed him only recently (courtesy drsaunde). Somewhat an old-timer, jahrynx has been working in an almost deserted section of the database (reggae/dub/thingies), and struggled with editing loneliness. Hopefully, he'll now suffer additional bitchin' reviews and unlimited support from fellow editors murdos and AnAlach (plus of course drsaunde and myself).
- Editor:lenashou open edits: yet another frog. Same as Liff, just came out from the batcave, smashing a lot of ARs and release events right away. Watch him as well!
Not so young blood (are now autoeditors)
- AnAlach (Editor:AnAlach) open list: working mostly on French stuff. Has been under murdos continuous and merciless surveillance for quite some time (which means "accuracy", "research intensive", "behaving well").
- Jugdish (Editor:Jugdish) open list: Methodical, efficient. I'm impressed. Keep it on!
- Editor:Liff open edits: came out of nowhere, right into classical and jazz with a gross ~500 accurate edits per week. Watch him!
- murdos (Editor:murdos) working stack
- teleSTEIN (Editor:teleguise) suspicious activities :D
- Beth aka Nyght (Editor:Nyght) open list
- mo (Editor:mo) cat's grooves
- Zout (Editor:zout) open mods
- Shepard (Editor:shepard) Shepherding occupations
- Yllona Richardson (Editor:Yllona+Richardson) The Jazz Ruler
- Joan Whittaker (Editor:Joan+Whittaker) The Apostrophe Queen
- drsaunde (Editor:drsaunde) The Abominable Dr. Saunde
- Marcel Editor:Bad_Seed, who always answer yes for my spanish/portuguese laundry
- mudcrow (Editor:mudcrow) open-pile
Catching up some n00bs
- Editor:SaiyanRiku french n00b
- Editor:Kaptain+Chaos n00b messing with Charlier Parker
- Editor:grenzelm jazz n00b with a big number of "Midnite" netherland budget collection and other rare/dirty stuff
Other bookmarked editors
- Editor:mbase1235 a.k.a. Steve Coleman, on the project to fix his own discography
- tetedechou (Editor:tetedechou): an editor doing a lot of interesting adds to the jazz section
- Yurim (Editor:Yurim) open list: doing some really good work
- re-open capitalization style for abreviated words like 'Round
- verify albums with Multiple Language set / No Language set
- kill Jazz/Labels
- rewrite all Jazz
- instruments "tap dancing" (Who used to dance) and "pocket trumpet" (Don Cherry)
- Rocksichord for Call Cobbs
- merge double bass / upright bass
- Solo recitations. Interviews.
- Review page vs disco page for releases (8534053)
- 2090: title length limit too small
- GuessCase strange behavior on "Sittin' and Rockin'"
- GuessCase french mode horked
- Have a report of all (supposed) homebrew discid
- release date: mom' lil' helper
- A XUL interface to the web service and/or the web site
Label sorting TODO
- Polydor (ongoing): http://musicbrainz.org/search/oldsearch.html?query=Polydor&type=label&limit=0&handlearguments=1
- Mercury (small): http://musicbrainz.org/search/oldsearch.html?query=mercury&type=label&limit=0&handlearguments=1
- Uni (arggg): http://musicbrainz.org/search/oldsearch.html?query=universal&type=label&limit=0&handlearguments=1
- Sony (urrg): http://musicbrainz.org/search/oldsearch.html?query=sony&type=label&limit=0&handlearguments=1
- BMG (beeeeeee): http://musicbrainz.org/search/oldsearch.html?query=bmg&type=label&limit=0&handlearguments=1
- EMI (weeeeeeee): http://musicbrainz.org/search/oldsearch.html?query=EMI&type=label&limit=0&handlearguments=1
- Warner (arf): http://musicbrainz.org/search/oldsearch.html?query=Warner&type=label&limit=0&handlearguments=1
To watch / tidy
- McPartland messy Piano Radio stuff
- Concord Records & Concord Jazz to clean up/check out
I like typos. Some of them I think were (very) funny:
- L'idole des jaunes
- Would You Lie to Take a Walk?
- Take Lobe Easy
- Gimme a Pigfoot and a Bottle of Bear
- I Cover the Waterfont
- There Is No Greater Lover
- Being the Beguine
- Taking a Change on Love
- If You Ever Could Leave
- If That's What You're Thinking, You're Wong
- Gulf Coats Blues
- And the Angles Sing
- Let's Call the Hole Thing Off
- Lettre à la p'tite mamie de l'ennemi public n°1
Extremely politically incorrect thoughts
Disclaimer: whoever you are, don't you ever mention me as a reference if you think the same. These thoughts are the shame of the community, counter-productive, dangerous, and I'll deny I ever thought them if somebody asks me.
That being said...
- "Preserving (album version) into titles just sucks"
- "Using sentence mode for french capitalization is the laziest and most stupid move done by the french editors in MB *ever*. Nice going guys."
- "Go to hell composer style!" (Shepard in a great moment of inspiration)
- Reading any of these instantly give me stomach-ache:
They Love Me, and They Let Other People Know About It
Being just like everybody else, I sometimes make judgment errors, do the wrong thing, or get caught into trolls. Other people being just like everybody else, they sometimes get caught into exuberant reactions to that, from (semi)-public slandering to private mail insults.
This section is a selection of these "reactions", meant as a kind of "I regret having been caught into that, and apologize to the victims (if any)" on my side, and as a "If you plan on trashing me, be original - try to actually solve the issue with me first" for others :-)
Here it comes:
- "You're an asshole"
- private one, for me deleting a wiki page I obviously shouldn't have deleted - if the importance of that page is to be measured against the virulence of the reaction
- "wow dmppanda is a tool. [he] is a narrow minded and always has it out for me"
- public one, for the same reason as above
- "Can dmppanda please be reminded of the CodeOfConduct [...] I don't appreciate being called a moron voter due to a disagreement, and this is disgusting behaviour by an AutoEditor. I believe this isn't the first time that panda has abused others in edits, and I don't appreciate being treated as a pesky nuisance impeding a more experienced AutoEditor in his "work""
- that one was a formal complaint, for some trivial editing disagreement
- "Around the same time, I remember dmppanda lambasting editors dealing with classical: "Why don't you people ever do some proper research, you never do things properly!". (I am not sure he remembers saying that :p )"
- that one was quite friendly actually, and was just meant at poking me for having, in the past, lost patience with loosy/newbie classical editors - it serves as a good reminder for me to actually try polish my English when I bash editors, so they actually feel something else than the beating :-)
Using rating in a sensical way
Rating single artist boxset anthologies and compilations:
- 5 stars means the given set is *the definitive edition* for the material, that the sound is the best available, and both the packaging and discographical documentation are remarkable.
- completists and serious amateurs should pick this one with confidence to build themselves the definitive collection
- 4 stars means the set lacks one of the qualities above: either it's missing some essential cuts from the period it's supposed to cover while another concurrent set doesn't (if it is a "complete" edition), either it presents a small defect of some sort (cheap packaging for example, or lacking a bit on discographical data), while still being an fairly good choice
- exigent listeners who don't aim at exhaustive collections may confidently pick these for a good reference
- 3 stars means the set presents a decent overview for the newcomer, at a reasonable price, and has been assembled with care enough - while definitely not being good enough for completists and serious amateurs
- newcomers and people looking for a glimpse at the artist may pick these for a good "overview" choice
- 2 stars means the set, while still being (reasonably) seriously assembled, seriously lacks interest - "tasteless sampler", "best-of" without much qualities in the choice of cuts
- people who are cheap and want to give cheap present to cheap friends (still with some meaning in it :-) ) may pick these
- 1 star means the set is total crap without infos about the cuts, typos in titles and wrong attributions, and possibly bad sound etc
- everyone should avoid these
Rating single artist original albums:
- 5 stars means the album is absolutely remarkable (when compared with both the rest of the artists production, with the genre he is performing in, and with music in general), and that the specific edition in question is the best one: the packaging and sound quality is rated as well by this, and should be as good as the content of the release
- a must buy
- 4 stars is usual for either lesser editions of remarkable albums, or for excellent editions of very good albums that are close to being perfect
- usually a decent to good buy
- 3 stars means the album is just average for the artist: not essential for amateurs and newcomers, completists will pick it. Not excellent, not bad either. Cheap editions of otherwise good or remarkable releases may end-up here
- usually reserved for people really interested in digging further
- 2 stars means the album is kind of a flop, and a weak spot in the artist discography
- hardcore completists
- 1 star means the album is a total disaster, and there is nothing to save
- no one should buy this
Note that the case of live bootlegs is hard to rate. Sometimes, the material is absolutely essential, and there is only one (very cheap/dirty) edition for it, with bogus packaging/sleeve and crap sound. Usually, these may rate from 3 to 4, with a special note about the low quality of the media.