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Have you ever looked at a release and wondered 'which of these companies/logos is the label?' This how-to guide explains the difference between labels and imprints, how to identify them, and walks through some examples. It mainly focuses on physical releases.
Have you ever looked at a release and wondered 'which of these companies/logos is the ''label''?' This how-to guide explains the difference between record companies and labels (imprints), how to identify them, and walks through some examples. It mainly focuses on physical releases.


For other label-related pages please see [[How to Identify Labels#Additional information|additional information.]]
For other label-related pages please see [[How to Identify Labels#Additional information|additional information.]]

== What is a label? ==
A label is a record company's [[wikipedia:Imprint_(trade_name)|'imprint' (its trademark or logo)]], that it uses to release music. 'Label' and 'imprint' means the same thing, in general usage - but in MusicBrainz we sometimes also create a 'Label' entity for a company (see below). In this guide we will sometimes use the term 'imprint' instead of 'label', when we are trying to distinguish between the company and the label.

For more information on these entities see the [[Label]] page.

==Should I use the company name or the imprint for the label?==

In most cases you should only use '''imprints''', particularly in the label field. Most editors will only need to use/create imprint label entities in MusicBrainz.

When needed, companies that aren't also imprints (for instance, a holding company that owns various imprints) can be added as labels. The reason for doing this is usually to represent the history and relationships between imprints in a meaningful way, or to use the manufacturing and distribution relationships. Note that there is no need to "de-duplicate" companies from imprints when their name are very similar.

== Identifying labels ==
In the following examples we are aiming to identify the label. We are also aiming to identify the company/s, if different, which we will ''not'' use for label fields.


==Simple cases==
==Simple cases==


Before the massive mergers that occurred in the music industry during the last part of the 20th century, and for most labels, the situation was pretty simple: a single company would issue releases through a single [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprint_(trade_name) imprint (its trademark or logo)]. The name of the record company and the imprint it uses may be identical, but this is not necessarily the case.
Sometimes (particularly for releases from before the age of label mergers) the situation is simple: a single company would issue releases through a single [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprint_(trade_name) imprint (its trademark or logo)]. The name of the record company and the imprint it uses may be identical, but not always.


===A 1959 vinyl example===
===1959 vinyl example===


[[release:76bf12c5-b34e-416b-a11a-c6e58d9e7c26|Cecil Taylor, Looking Ahead]]
[[release:1ace6a48-ac3a-48ae-9aeb-2f0e6cd3a5c2|Cecil Taylor, Looking Ahead!]]


On the front cover, the imprint name is featured on the top right hand ("Contemporary Records"), alongside the catalog number ("S7562"):
On the front cover, top right, the ''imprint'' name is printed ("Contemporary Records") alongside the catalog number ("S7562"):
* [[Image:looking1.jpg]]
* [[Image:looking1.jpg]]


On the back sleeve, you can find the company name (at the bottom):
On the back sleeve, bottom, the ''company'' name is printed ("Contemporary Records, Inc."):
* [[Image:looking2.jpg]]
* [[Image:looking2.jpg]]


On the medium the ''imprint'' name is also printed prominently:
The imprint name is also featured prominently on the inner sticker of the vinyl (this is actually "the imprint"):
* [[Image:looking3.jpg]]
* [[Image:looking3.jpg]]


Note the full company name (Contemporary Records, INC) is slightly different from the imprint name (Contemporary Records, which you should use here).
We have identified the imprint name (Contemporary Records), which we will use. The full company name is slightly different (Contemporary Records, Inc), and we can ignore it for label-related fields and purposes.


===A 1995 CD example===
===1995 CD example===


[[release:8083d9ed-e8a1-4d7e-8baf-056a5e2f2a38|John Zorn, First Recordings 1973]]
[[release:8083d9ed-e8a1-4d7e-8baf-056a5e2f2a38|John Zorn, First Recordings 1973]]
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Note that, on the other hand, the Japanese reprint of that stuff that Fantasy allowed Victor to put out was using solely the Prestige logo (making it technically a Prestige release)!
Note that, on the other hand, the Japanese reprint of that stuff that Fantasy allowed Victor to put out was using solely the Prestige logo (making it technically a Prestige release)!


== Other databases ==
==When to use a company name instead of an imprint in MusicBrainz?==

Again, in 99% of the cases, you should only use '''imprints''' in release events, and most editors will only need to use/create '''imprints'''.

Using as labels '''companies that are not also imprints''' is quite rare and should be reserved to these editors who are willing to do ground-work on structuring imprints and injecting a sense of history into them (especially useful for old labels that went through many different historical phases). Such editing usually requires that you have a lot of specific knowledge about the history of the peoples and companies that made the imprints, and that you have a good judgment to achieve a decent balance between accurate and complete information, while still keeping the hierarchy in a simple state enough to make it useful (in helping structure the imprints list) and avoid the cluttering temptation of off-topic data (financial or economical details that are not directly relevant, etc).

Remember that the provision made to be able to use ''companies'' labels was only meant to ''help'' organizing and relating ''imprints'', not to make things more confusing / complicated for newcomers.

== Databases/sources for label information ==


The only '''serious''' source for this information is the release sleeve.
The only '''serious''' source for label information is the release sleeve.


Often online stores/databases inconsistently use the distributor/manufacturer/label/imprint name, abbreviates names, duplicates entries, and so on. Proceed with caution and use your best judgement when using other sources as references.
Online stores/databases inconsistently use the distributor/manufacturer/label/imprint name, abbreviates names, duplicates entries, and so on. Proceed with caution and use your best judgement when using other sources as references.


A short list of common sources:
A short list of common sources:

Revision as of 11:51, 20 July 2023

Have you ever looked at a release and wondered 'which of these companies/logos is the label?' This how-to guide explains the difference between record companies and labels (imprints), how to identify them, and walks through some examples. It mainly focuses on physical releases.

For other label-related pages please see additional information.

What is a label?

A label is a record company's 'imprint' (its trademark or logo), that it uses to release music. 'Label' and 'imprint' means the same thing, in general usage - but in MusicBrainz we sometimes also create a 'Label' entity for a company (see below). In this guide we will sometimes use the term 'imprint' instead of 'label', when we are trying to distinguish between the company and the label.

For more information on these entities see the Label page.

Should I use the company name or the imprint for the label?

In most cases you should only use imprints, particularly in the label field. Most editors will only need to use/create imprint label entities in MusicBrainz.

When needed, companies that aren't also imprints (for instance, a holding company that owns various imprints) can be added as labels. The reason for doing this is usually to represent the history and relationships between imprints in a meaningful way, or to use the manufacturing and distribution relationships. Note that there is no need to "de-duplicate" companies from imprints when their name are very similar.

Identifying labels

In the following examples we are aiming to identify the label. We are also aiming to identify the company/s, if different, which we will not use for label fields.

Simple cases

Sometimes (particularly for releases from before the age of label mergers) the situation is simple: a single company would issue releases through a single imprint (its trademark or logo). The name of the record company and the imprint it uses may be identical, but not always.

1959 vinyl example

Cecil Taylor, Looking Ahead!

On the front cover, top right, the imprint name is printed ("Contemporary Records") alongside the catalog number ("S7562"):

  • looking1.jpg

On the back sleeve, bottom, the company name is printed ("Contemporary Records, Inc."):

  • looking2.jpg

On the medium the imprint name is also printed prominently:

  • looking3.jpg

We have identified the imprint name (Contemporary Records), which we will use. The full company name is slightly different (Contemporary Records, Inc), and we can ignore it for label-related fields and purposes.

1995 CD example

John Zorn, First Recordings 1973

Here also it's pretty straight forward. The label name appears both on the obi strip (along with the barcode)

  • firstrec1.jpg

And also on the bottom of the back sleeve

  • firstrec2.jpg

The catalog number appears on the side of the box (TZ 7304).

Note that in a lot of cases, you'll find the imprint on the cd itself as well, or on the side of the box.

Don't get fooled by the company name holding the imprint

At some point, though, the de-correlation between companies and imprints went on, quickly moving toward a situation where in a lot of cases:

  • a company has an entirely different name than the imprint it controls (possibly, it bought the remains of the bankrupted previous owner of the trademark)
  • a given company controls (several) different imprints (that it either created or bought) with different names, as to issue different kind of stuff / geared toward different public)

The relevant part, which you should use in release events, is still the imprint!

Here, a relatively straight-forward case: the Emarcy company was long deceased in 1991 - though its imprint was owned by Polygram (eg: Polygram bought the rights to use the "Emarcy" trademark as a label, and to issue under that name).

Eric Dolphy Last Date (from 1991)

  • lastdate.jpg

Note that this one is relatively easy (the "Polygram" name is quite discreet - though obviously the copyright owner and producer of the release), while the Emarcy logo is the one featured, and is indicated on the side of the box. Some cases are a bit more complicated. Nevertheless, again here the correct label to use is the imprint, Emarcy.

On the other hand, be careful that in some cases a company owning a specific imprint, along with the right to issue the catalog of the former owner, may do so using a new (different) imprint while still reproducing the original imprint logo as well as to indicate the origin of the stuff! Such cases might prove a little more complicated and should be handled on a case by case basis (see the OJC example below).

Don't get fooled by the manufacturer or the distributor

The music business getting more complex and globalized, the making of releases also became more complicated and began involving more than the company producing the release (usually at least an additional manufacturer and a distributor), and a (somewhat) recent trend pushed to a state where these companies would also print their own logos on the sleeves, alongside the producing label logo.

Right now, we don't care at all about manufacturers - and almost neither about distributors (at least, newcomers editors are heavily discouraged to dabble with distributors editing), so, the right choice is the label producing the release.

Usually, you can identify the record company by taking a look at the producing ((p)) or copyright ((c)) mention. Then you can probably identify the imprint name from that.

The LabelCode may also be a very helpful piece of information in identifying the correct label.

Here, Tom Waits Mule Variations, a release by the Anti label (distributed and manufactured in Europe by Epitaph) (Anti has LabelCode 02576).

  • mule-variations.jpg

Obviously, CD can very well feature a number of random logos (distributor, manufacturer, holding company, artist manager company), and sorting these may turn out more complicated than above.

Still, using the LabelCode, the copyright/produced mentions, eliminating these mentioned in the "distributed/manufactured" and the holding company usually proves efficient to sort the ins and out.

Absolutely confusing cases

In some cases, you really call for troubles. If you experience difficulties, your best shot is probably to ping one of the subscribers for the artist/label concerned, upload a sleeve scan and ask him/her for help.

Here is such an interesting case, in its full insane glory...

  • latinjazz.jpg

How to proceed?

The easy part:

  • ignore ZYX as the manufacturer
  • ignore the distributors

That leaves us with Fantasy (credited as producing the release), Prestige, Original Jazz Classics, LC 0313 and catalog number OJCCD-819-2.

Now you need to dig the history books. Though Fantasy (which is also an imprint!) is credited as (c), a little research will reveal that the Fantasy company were actually using Original Jazz Classics as an imprint to reissue stuff they owned from defunct labels, including Prestige. Though the label code used here is the one of Prestige, they insisted on using the OJC imprint with its own catalog scheme (typical OJCXX-XXXX) (while still featuring the imprint (and here label code!) of the original label), while later on during their history they reversed that trend and discarded the OJC line to come back to reusing the original imprint names...

A quick look in the database at the Original Jazz Classics entry will show you (a lot) more of these.

Either Prestige or OJC would fit here, and the choice is somewhat an arbitrary one, though, and based on Fantasy history, and following a number of other (serious) discographic resources, it was decided to use OJC for these.

Note that, on the other hand, the Japanese reprint of that stuff that Fantasy allowed Victor to put out was using solely the Prestige logo (making it technically a Prestige release)!

Other databases

The only serious source for label information is the release sleeve.

Online stores/databases inconsistently use the distributor/manufacturer/label/imprint name, abbreviates names, duplicates entries, and so on. Proceed with caution and use your best judgement when using other sources as references.

A short list of common sources:

  • All Music Guide: Bad
  • Amazon: Very bad
  • Barnes and Noble: Mixed
  • CD Universe: Mixed
  • ciao: Mixed
  • Discogs: Okay, but be aware that they have some differing label/imprint guidelines to MusicBrainz
  • ebay: Bad, unless you are looking at sleeve scans/photos
  • HB Direct: Good
  • Rakuten: Bad, unless you are looking at sleeve scans/photos
  • Wikipedia: Mixed, often grouping different releases/editions

Additional information

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